The Central Point of Modern Civilization
Posted on September 5, 2010
Filed under BVKS Sanga
Prabhupada: No, we… “It is voluntary. In our society we find so many
brahmacaris, so many grhasthas. And if you cannot stop this itching
sensation, all right, marry one girl and live peacefully like a gentle…
What is this nonsense, every three weeks divorce? We are not so rascal. If
we accept one girl as my wife, I take full responsibility. Because I require
a girl or woman, so this woman, that one… We are not so rascal that at
home I have got woman, I am searching after another woman, another naked
woman. We are not so madman. The sex pleasure is there at home, and I am
seeking after sex pleasure in here, here, in the club, in the… What is
that? Is that vagina is different? You are so fool. You require vagina; take
one vagina. Be satisfied. And lick it. Why you are going here and there,
here and there, here and there? Even old man is going to the nightclub to
lick another vagina. Is that civilization? You are proud of your
civilization.” Tell them like that. “Licking of the vagina, different,
obnoxious smell. You are less than the dog. The dog likes to smell the
vagina. You are like that. What is business of going another vagina? You
require vagina. Take one and be satisfied. That is intelligence. First of
all there is no need of vagina. But if you want, take one and be satisfied.
Why you are searching after dog vagina, this vagina, that vagina, that
vagina? Is that civilization?” Expose them like that. “Your brain is filled
with so much stool, so we are washing it. What is the wrong there?”
Adi-kesava: Actually they all need brainwashing.
Prabhupada: Yes, “Every one of you require, because your brain is filled up
with stool. You have no brain. Brain is covered with stool.” What they will
answer?
Satsvarupa: That “If I want to have a stool brain, it may be lamentable, but
don’t force me to be washed.
Prabhupada: It is not force. It is no…
Satsvarupa: Let me remain in stool.
Prabhupada: We are preaching. It does not mean that we are forcing. We are
saying that “Your brain is in stool. Wash it like this. If one agrees, he
does it. Not that in our movement all world has joined. One who is
intelligent, he has agreed, ‘Yes.’ I am not forcing. If I would have
possessed that forcive power, what right you have got to bring me in the
court? You are forcing me to stop this. You are forcing. Nobody can force,
but you are forcing.” You should take this argument and expose them at least
in the court, licking of the vagina civilization, like dog. Yes animals do
that.
Adi-kesava: I think the more strongly we preach in this way, that we don’t
try to give in and compromise…
Prabhupada: No, no, no.
Adi-kesava: The more that everyone will hear about this issue…
Prabhupada: We must expose them, that’s all. This is our business. This is a
good opportunity in the court, so that it will be published. People will
know what is our philosophy. Licking of vagina civilization, this. Publish.
Adi-kesava: All right.
Prabhupada: What they have got anymore, this Western civilization?
Adi-kesava: They say that they are all actually in despair. They don’t see
any hope in the future.
Prabhupada: This is their position.
Hari-sauri: Their only hope in the future is that we’ll eat trash, process
trash and…
Prabhupada: Yes, Gaura-Nitai. Is that argument all right, licking the vagina
civilization?
Prthu-putra: Great.
Adi-kesava(?): Very bold.
Hari-sauri: No one’s ever talked to them like that.
Prabhupada: But this is a fact. The old man, seventy-five years old, he’s
going to lick up another vagina in the club. This is your Western
civilization.
Adi-kesava: Sometimes in New York… You know we live right next to
Broadway. The temple is right next to Broadway. Sometimes in New York we see
old, old men…
Prabhupada: And in France it is very… In France you have got.
Prthu-putra: In France, yes. All the prostitution going on around the
temple.
Adi-kesava: You see even old, old men going to these clubs.
Hari-sauri: If you can still have sex when you’re seventy-five, then you’re
a great man. Glorified.
Prabhupada: Just see. This is their civilization. In Paris there are so many
clubs. The old men, they first of all pay fifty dollars to enter into the
club. Then he selects which vagina he will lick up. Then another payment. I
know that. (aside:) No, he can be asked to sit down there.
Hari-sauri: To sit in the room.
Prabhupada: Yes. Actually this is the fact. But they are fools. They still
like to lick up new vagina. Exactly dogs. We are restricting that “Give up
this business, licking of vagina,” and they are seeking up to the point of
death another vagina, another vagina, another… Which is better? If we say
that “Give up this nonsense business,” is that brainwash? And if it is
brainwash, it is for good. What is this civilization, who is never
satisfied? The same business is going on up to the point of death. Our
civilization is: “All right, you are attached to vagina-licking. Do it up to
fifty years. Then give it up.” This is our civilization. “You are so much
accustomed to the vagina-licking business — up to fifty years, so long you
are young. Then give it… Don’t do it anymore.” This is our civilization.
And that also, after twenty-five years. For twenty-five years teach him, “It
is no good business. Brahmacari. Remain alone. You have got so much
botheration.” If he’s still unable: “All right, take one wife. Be satisfied.
Lick up one. And then, at the age of fifty years, give up.” This is our…
Is that wrong?
Satsvarupa: It’s good.
Hari-sauri: It’s great.
Prabhupada: Because unless you give up this business of vagina-licking,
you’ll have to be entangled in this body. Either as a dog or as a hog, as a
human being or as a demigod, as a tree, as an insect, it will go on. In this
way plead. Let the people understand what we are preaching. Advance this
philosophy, widely discussed. Then our success.
Hari-sauri: There’s no question this will be widely discussed.
Prabhupada: And… (someone enters) (Bengali) [break] Smelling the aroma,
such a nonsense.
Hari-sauri: As you say, just like dogs.
Prabhupada: Hm?
Hari-sauri: Just like the dogs.
Prabhupada: Dogs and all animals, smelling vagina. They think, “Here is real
pleasure.”
Hari-sauri: There’s no need to move around, Srila Prabhupada… [break]
Prabhupada: They’re going for vagina and paying heavy toll: fifty dollars
for entering the club, then two hundred dollars for drinking. You know this?
Hari-sauri: Yes.
Prabhupada: This is their civilization, vagina civilization. In Florida they
go, Miami, to spend money weekly, five hundred, five thousand dollars for
naked dance. You know that?
Hari-sauri: Yes. So many places. Las Vegas. Every big city has…
Prabhupada: And Brahmananda told me sometimes they see on the stage a fatty
woman having sex with an ass. This is exhibited in Mexico. And they enjoy
it.
Hari-sauri: In Europe they have sex fairs.
Prabhupada: Sex fair? What is that?
Hari-sauri: You can go, and they have sideshows, men and women having sex on
the stage at regular intervals, and they exhibit all kinds of contraptions
that you can use to pervert your sex life even more.
Prabhupada: What they will understand about this Krsna consciousness?
Hari-sauri: There’s not very much hope for them.
Prabhupada: Help is for everyone, but if they remain stubborn to their own
way of life, then it is not possible. They have to wash the brain. Otherwise
it is possible.
Hari-sauri: You explain in the Bhagavatam that everything actually is just
an extension of the sex desire.
Prabhupada: That’s it.
Hari-sauri: Their whole big cities and so much industry…
Prabhupada: Yes.
Hari-sauri: …and work is just simply…
Prabhupada: For the central point-vagina.
>>> Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation with Adi-kesava Swami — February 19,
1977, Mayapura
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