The Path of Illumination

Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam 3.32.7 | December 10, 2007 |

English; Salem, Tamilnadu, India

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Question:

What is role of jivatma in this universe as I am a jivatma could you please guide me on characteristics of jivatma and how to live in this universe. Also please let me know the disadvantages of jivatma.

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Well, there’s no disadvantage of being a jīvātmā. Even if there is, there’s no way not to be a jīvātmā. Because acchedyo ‘yam akledyo ‘yam aśoṣya, jīva… You can’t destroy the jīva. The role of the jīvātmā in this universe is to… We’re in this universe to forget Kṛṣṇa. But it’s not a good thing to do. So, the best thing is to become Kṛṣṇa conscious and get out of this universe. The characteristics of the jīva: jīvera svarūpa haya kṛṣṇera nitya-dāsa. The characteristic of the jīva is that he is an eternal servant of Kṛṣṇa. How to live in this universe? Gṛhe thāko, vane thāko, sadā ‘hari’ bole’ ḍāko. Whatever situation you’re in, chant the holy name of Kṛṣṇa. For more guidance, read Śrīla Prabhupāda’s books. Read all of his books. And for practical guidance on how to be Kṛṣṇa conscious, see that Beginner’s Guide to Kṛṣṇa Consciousness.

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I would like to ask for clarification of one subject, namely, Krishna's "assuming" different forms. In one of the classes that had been uploaded on the bvks.com you spoke about the Lord not "assuming" the form, as far as I remember, you made the point that these forms of the Lord do exist eternally and that the forms of the material world are the "copies" and not the other way round. You also made the point that the word "assume" should probably not be used in the verse.

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"So sometimes this earthly planet was thrown into the water, Garbhodaka-samudra, Garbhodaka Sea, and God took the form of a boar, having two tusks — because it was easier. Just like shovel, you take something like that. So He took the earth. So that is described: ksitir iha vipulatare tisthati tava… No. What is that? Dasana-sikhare? The, this is described in Jayadeva's prayer. Vasati dasana-sikhare dharani tava lagna. Vasati, "is resting"; vasati dasana-sikhare, "on the top of the tusk." Kesava dhrta- sukara-rupa jaya jagadisa hare. So He's yajnesa. It is not that He's… is shape was just like hog, but He's not hog. Don't misunderstand. His shape was a gigantic hog. You can just imagine what kind of hog He was. The shape was like hog, but He was resting the whole planet, earthly planet, on the tusk. Vasati dasana-sikhare dharani tava lagna sasini kalanka, kesava dhrta- sukara-rupa. Here it is stated, saukaram. Saukaram means like hog. Not that He's hog. He's yajnesa. He can take any shape. Just like here is, God has assumed the shape of a lion, half-lion, half-man. So He's all powerful, He can take any shape, any form, but He is not that form. That is for the time being. For the time being, He assumes so many forms. The real form is Krsna, the original form. Kesava dhrta-sukara, sukara-rupa or sukara-rupa. "My Lord Kesava, You have assumed this form." So there are many millions and millions of forms of God. According to time, necessity, circumstances, He assumes different forms. Because it is His business:

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>>> Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 1.3.7 — Los Angeles, September 13, 1972

I remember discussing this very same point with Gokula Candra Prabhu when we were in Salem, and the conclusion was that these forms do exist eternally, but from the above statement by Srila Prabhupada it seems to be otherwise. Could you clarify that please so that I may understand this properly?

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